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Distance auditing and open source

David St Lawrence, "Old Auditor"This was posted by David St Lawrence on 5 March as a comment to the iCans “About” page.


I know there is a place for distance auditing.

I am sure that there will be more and more practitioners making use of Internet connections to help others in remote locations.

I have used the telephone to help others in trouble on OT V and have received help myself when it was not possible to get to Flag for a repair. I have used telephone non-metered auditing with non-OTs also.

Using a video setup on Skype would produce even better results as it is easier to communicate with a video link.

I hope this evolves as an “open source” effort with a minimum of attention on standardization except in the area of nomenclature. By that I mean that every promising avenue should be piloted and reported with complete data on what worked well and what problems were encountered. The names for each arrangement and for the phenomena encountered should be worked out to minimize duplicate names for different functions and phenomena.

This can be facilitated by creating open committees for discussing nomenclature, technology advances, legal ramifications, project launches and tracking of same…

With an open committee, anyone can join as long as they contribute. If a schism occurs, the easiest solution is to create an alternative committee and add it to the general list of committees. Better yet, each committee has to create its own website and develop public support by the strengths and applicability of its ideas.

We may well end up with networks of similar committees with each node linking to those other nodes which support similar goals.

David

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March 6, 2010 - Posted by | Uncategorized

9 Comments »

  1. My suggestion for an open source framework is to mainly use a wiki. The wiki software used for Wikipedia is freely available. You can start a free wiki at http://www.wikia.com/Wikia right now, for instance, so hosting isn’t a problem either.

    Paul

    Comment by Paul Adams | March 6, 2010 | Reply

  2. 21st century, open source, oh, this is music to my iPod ears. 🙂 Now, THIS is what evolution is all about. The more the powers that be try to control, the more people go free and take charge themselves. Excellent, excellent, excellent.

    Comment by KB | March 6, 2010 | Reply

  3. I have tried “remote telephathic-metering auditing” via phone line & it was more major DISASTER in the long run than BENEFIT!!!

    However, I did read thru “OldAuditor’s” profile & feel he could be presenting a more realistic alternative – he doesn’t mention “telepathic metering” or using Ducharme’s “R3X” technique.

    Plus I was mightily impressed by the early, years ago, Russian solution to “distance auditing” by just using webcam & the pc holding the cans of a meter turned to face the cam & not themselves – GENIUS! No so called “telepathy” required because, Oh Brother, that sure is a “dub-in” loaded gun!

    However, I have also tried that method as a pc & it is still VERY AWKWARD – it is certainly nowhere near as effective as a “face to face” auditing session – there are so many “vias” or distractions going on – maybe the pc could get used to it eventually but I really don’t know.

    I notice that Rolf Dane advises that Robert Ducharme is acting as a Case Supervisor for his pcs. I am sure their definition of the role is quite different from the original Scientology role, as are their auditing methods – with the emphasis being more on “loosely based upon”.

    As far as “any auditing better than no auditing” well, I’m not so sure about that as “wrong” auditing HURTS LIKE HELL! And can significantly damage a case rather than assist it.

    Comment by fnx3 | March 11, 2010 | Reply

    • There are two different subjects here, although they are connected. One is telepathic metering. The other is R3X.

      Telepathic metering can (or cannot) be shown to be workable in certain circumstances, totally independently of R3X. I don’t want to smush the two subjects together. My iCans blog is about distance auditing and training, not about R3X particularly.

      Much more research on telepathic metering should be brought to light or done and documented and made available for inspection and comment.

      I had about 60 hours of R3X from Robert. I was highly impressed with the ease of getting auditing over the telephone with no attention on the mechanics of the session. I was highly impressed with his ability to do telepathic metering. I was highly impressed by the mock-up processing of the 6-direction process, and the focusing in of the special attention processes. But that was about it. I didn’t get much out of the R3R aspects of it, and the pre-MEST stuff seemed fanciful. Overall I think it is a vast improvement on R3R and R3RA, but that doesn’t mean I endorse it fully.

      I haven’t tried distance auditing over Skype with the pc’s meter facing his webcam. I think it must be extremely limited, simply because it requires the pc to have with him an auto-reset meter. How many pcs are going to buy one specially? Plus it requires a Skype frame rate of at least 15 frames per second according to Maxim. My Skype connection isn’t close to that. Telepathic metering is a way around it all. Another way is to have highly effective procedures that don’t use a meter, but regular Scn doesn’t get into that much once you get above Self Analysis and Handbook for Preclears level.

      I tend to agree with you about no/any auditing being better than any/no audting. I don’t think one can make an absolute statement either way. But some people like tossing LRH quotes about.

      Comment by Paul Adams | March 11, 2010 | Reply

  4. Well, all I can say, as per my own experience with telepathic metering, is “…dub-in loaded gun” again Paul.

    With regard to yr comment:
    “Telepathic metering is a way around it all. Another way is to have highly effective procedures that don’t use a meter, but regular Scn doesn’t get into that much once you get above Self Analysis and Handbook for Preclears level.”

    I am mightily impressed with Clearbird’s Handbook for Auditors, Unmetered section & CB did advise me of quite a few of those v. early processes that would work fine as per phone delivery.

    There suitable processes already “there” – no need to invent new processes – what a relief!

    Comment by fnx3 | March 11, 2010 | Reply

    • Oh yes, I forgot about all those unmetered processes in the Intro and Demo pack. I’ve even got one of those on my bookshelf. Great. Lots of options for people to choose from then without having to get too weird. 🙂

      Paul

      Comment by Paul Adams | March 11, 2010 | Reply

  5. Yay! that’s right – cool isn’t it!

    But could you clarify what you mean by “Intro” & “Demo” pack? I was referring to the actual Handbook for Auditors manual put together by Clearbird & containing a section of “Unmetered Auditing” using processes from the very early years of Scientology.

    Comment by fnx3 | March 12, 2010 | Reply

    • I looked for your CB processes but could only find things like Self Analysis and assists. The “Intro and Demo” pack is a pack put out by the CofS in 1992 (there was an earlier version too, not as complete or fancy) that contains about 215 unmetered processes, almost all from the 50s.

      Paul

      Comment by Paul Adams | March 12, 2010 | Reply

      • Oh OK – no, CB put out a whole separate book a few years after Road to Clear, called Handbook for Auditors – I purchased a download copy. It is a wonderful compilation of effective processes and includes a whole “unmetered section”.
        Highly recommend!

        Comment by fnx3 | March 12, 2010


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